Evolution of Technology – Vinyl Records

I still have all my old records, along with vintage movie posters (photo by Bruce Sallan)

AKA Bruce’s Guide to the Evolution of Technology and His Kandy-Kolored Tangerine-Flake Streamline Baby, Part Two*

With Guest Co-Author, Professor David E. Weber

The Evolution of Technology series continues with the record store and vinyl records, aka lps, records.  Going to the record store now seems such a quaint memory, sort of like the Beav going to the soda fountain.  But, vinyl records and record stores were a big part of our lives back in the day!

The Monkees Debut Album with my original photos on it (photo by Bruce Sallan)

My oldest friend in the world is David E. Weber, a professor at the University of North Carolina Wilmington.  We actually met in nursery school, as pre-school was called when we grew up, and have been in touch for the five decades since.

He’s led a wonderfully adventurous and eclectic life, but now is relatively settled given he’s a tenured professor of communication studies.  That doesn’t stop him from continued exploration of the world, as he recently returned from being a guest professor in Vietnam.

Professor Weber earned a Ph.D. in Communication from University of Denver in his late forties.  Prior to that, he had a career in organizational development for almost 20 years, including five years as an expatriate executive in Asia.  His academic specialty area is communication in international business organizations.

DW, as I’ve fondly called him for longer than I can remember, has his very personal recollections about record albums and record stores.  As he and I both grew up in Los Angeles, we roamed the city, especially Hollywood, where THE record store of the stars, Wallach’s Music City, filled the corner of Sunset and Vine.  For  its radio commercials in the ‘50s and ‘60s, Wallach’s would engage a major star of the era, such as Doris Day, to introduce himself or herself, pause, and then, to the tune of “Rock-a-bye Baby,” sing three words:  “It’s Music City!”

Wallach’s had an extensive collection of guitars, drums, studio recording equipment and sheet music as well as a massive collection of record albums of all music genres.   In the ‘60s, a variety of L.A. residents – hippies, refined classical music types, some country fans and young teenyboppers – filled the store’s famous listening booths, where like the sidewalk cafes of Paris, you could stay as long as you wished.  Top entertainment stars visited Wallach’s: On different occasions, DW remembers seeing Steven Stills, Scruffy Weir (of The Grateful Dead) and Joni Mitchell standing within arm’s reach among the vinyl albums.

David and I were frequent visitors of our local record stores and would occasionally pedal our Schwinn bikes all the way to Hollywood and walk in awe through Wallach’s Music City.  Records and music were part of our teenage initiation and our first stab at seriously distinguishing ourselves from our parents.  It was very important to us.

DW teaches courses primarily in business and organizational communication, but also teaches, lectures and writes about the history of technology, and the emerging relationship between digital technology and culture.  He has, from the point of view of a communication professor, some great memories to share of the impact that record albums and his collection of them had on his life.   Here are some of those memories, which I would like to share in this edition of “The Evolution of Technology:”

Take it away, Professor Weber:

At its peak, my collection of vinyl albums numbered about 200.  In contrast, some of my friends had well over 2,000 albums.  But nearly every one of my records had sentimental meaning for me; I had limited interest in pure acquisition or casual accumulation.  I also owned about 150 45-r.p.m. records, most of which also evoked special memories.  All of that ended on a stormy Wednesday in September 1999, when all of my vinyl was destroyed under four-plus feet of water in a flood.

My record collection had grown, shrunk, changed and relocated with me throughout four decades.   The flood of ‘99 destroyed The Turtles Greatest Hits — the first stereo album I had ever bought, back in about 1967, at age 14.  My favorite album as a little boy was an early 33⅓ RPM album my dad had bought before I was even born.  On it the University of Michigan Men’s Glee Club’s sang a capella renditions of famous university songs.  It too was ruined by the flood.

Also taken from me were Days of Future Passed, In Search of the Lost Chord (Deluxe Edition), and Every Good Child Deserves Favor — albums by The Moody Blues.  I began accumulating them in college, when one young woman I wanted to impress said she loved the group.

In 1999, my copy of The Beatles’ The White Album consumed by the flood still had all of its extras — the scruffy photos, the poster-size photo collage of note pages containing the lyrics.  The album, a Christmas present at age 15 or so, represented one of my first excursions away from an obedient and straight-arrow life.

After high school, whenever my friends and I changed residences, we would haul our vinyl treasures with us, stacking them in orange crates We shredded our fingers with splinters as we loaded and unloaded the heavy boxes.

We bought most of our albums in record stores.  In college towns, these often were like community centers, much as Starbucks outlets are today.  In a store’s cut-out bins — boxes or racks of new albums, priced at 25 or 50 cents each, that record companies had decided to stop pressing — one often found quirky, even bizarre, no-one-else-will-have-this recordings.  Thus did My Russian Homeland by Ivan Rebroff come into my possession.

Playing an album was easier than landing on an aircraft carrier but more complicated than making scrambled eggs.  Remove the record carefully from its sleeve — don’t drop the disc on the lint and dirt on the carpet!  Now, run the dust remover slowly over the playing surface.  Touch only the edges of the disc as you lay it slowly onto the turntable and ease the needle arm up and away and onto the record.  A half-hour or so later, the rhythmic nsk, nsk nsk that will signal the end of the side; grab the arm before the needle careens onto the paper label!

Acquiring, transporting, storing and playing recorded music has changed from being primarily a physical task sometimes requiring use of the whole body, to a process calling for only the use of a finger.   Pushing “play” or “shuffle” or shuffle on your iPod replaces the minor surgery involved with playing a record in the vinyl era.   A stroke or two on your keyboard accesses websites like iTunes where songs and albums are yours as soon as you click “OK.”  You need never visit a “music city”—which means, though, you never bring a record home and inhale the scent of cut cardboard as you pull away the cellophane wrapper.  One’s identity, once defined by the contents of orange crates, is now conflated with the contents of a digital playlist.

Wow, I enjoyed reading DW’s memories while I’m surrounded by hardware that, to say the least, makes my vintage Hitachi transistor radio look its age.  He’s my only friend who has an encyclopedic memory and I often refer to him as my personal memory bank!  He remembers things about my life, just from stories I’ve told him, that I’ve long forgotten.  I reminisce about DW in another Boomer Tech Talk article, Typewriters to Texting.

My beloved and first transistor radio (photo by Bruce Sallan)

I will only share one memory of my early teen record store days and the amazing thing that occurred on my bicycle ride there.

It was the summer of 1966 and as I was heading to my record store, The Frigate, when I saw what turned out to be a George Barris original design custom car.  It looked amazing in its pinkish color so I stopped to take a look.  Nearby, I heard music coming from an open door.  I looked in and saw a band playing, under lights and against a white backdrop, as photographs were being taken.

I gingerly walked in and was greeted very nicely by the band.  They were taking photos for a new television series.  I met Mickey, Davey, Michael, and Peter and learned they were The Monkees and they were going to have a new series premiering in the fall (note: The Monkees TV series premiered in September, 1966 and lasted until just March, 1968).

Davy Jones with "Monkee-mobile" (Photo by 12-year-old Bruce Sallan)

I asked the guys if I could pedal home and get my Instamatic camera.  They agreed and I took a few photos.  In those days, it was less customary to jump into the picture so, sadly I’m not in any of them. But I was sure I had lost those photos years ago.  Happily, I found them again when I was searching through my memorabilia boxes for my first Evolution of Technology article and found my first transistor radio and, to my great surprise, these original photographs.

My photo, taken with my Instamatic, of "The Monkees" in June, 1966 (Photo by 12-year-old Bruce Sallan)

Peter Tork and Michael Nesmith during Photo Shoot - proof photo taken on same day and given to Bruce by The Monkees

Records. Albums. Vinyl. Lps. I thought these terms were part of my past, my tech history, but was surprised when our resident cartoonist, my son Aaron Sallan, used the record as a joke in one of his It’s a Tech World After All cartoons, which may be his most popular comic to date.

So, given our personal nostalgic memories, I am curious to hear of your memories of records, albums, and record stores?

*an homage to Tom Wolfe’s first collected book of essays, published in 1965

  • Moondustwriter

    Love this nostalgia Bruce and thanks to David – wow takes you back.
    I met the Monkeys too on a streetcar in San Francisco – I wonder if it was easier to be a celebrity back then – they were just chilling and enjoying the sites of SF

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      Thanks for making the first comment on this article Leslie! I’m very proud of my collaboration with Professor Weber. It was a lot of fun. I am sure you are right that it was MUCH easier being a celebrity back then, but they also were often very tightly controlled (especially actors/actresses) so I wonder which “they” prefer. That had to be fun when you also met The Monkees – was it after their show was on the air, so they were already well known?

  • Corky und der Zircus

    The photos of The Monkees are astonishing! I haven’t seen a photo of them in YEARS…and do they look YOUNG! I enjoyed the recollections of both of you. “Nsk nsk nsk” really DOES sound like the needle at the end of the record. Bruce’s collection of stuff is FANTASTIC. Bruce, you should set up some sort of museum or display room where someone could enter and be transported back in time.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      Thanks for the comment Corky. My wife would disagree with you about my “collection” as she thinks all it does is gather dust. I have a lot of comic books as well. Too much stuff.

  • Bill Draeger

    You didn’t mention what I thought was the pinnacle of vinyl record technology, which was direct-to-disc recording. These types of records were made in the late 70s and early 80s and they had amazing sound. The way they were done was that the typical multi-track tape recording and subsequent mixing processes were eliminated. Performances were recorded directly onto a metal master disc with a lathe and the vinyl discs were then pressed from it. Most performers were not willing to produce these type of records because what you had to do is set everything up in the studio and then do a live performance for the entire side of one album. If there was a screwup, you had to start over. However, the result was the closest you could get to an actual live performance in a club setting.

    I have a few of these direct-to-disc recordings, notably one by John Klemmer and another by Thelma Houston. Back in the day, whenever any friend would criticize my stereo system, I would throw on the John Klemmer record and it would sound like there was a saxophone player in the room. That would always end their discussion.

    By the way, I always thought the Monkees were underrated. Sure they were a band made-up for a TV show but they were made up with some pretty good musicians. Now I’m going to go see if they have “Last Train To Clarksville” on Youtube.

    Thanks again for the nostalgia.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      Thanks for that additional info and insights Bill!

  • Patrick Bateman

    I’m a teenager and I’ve just recently gotton into vinyl. Its so cool! I just love actually having a full album to look at. And the album art is awesome too.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      I love hearing about “kids” discovering “our” stuff. Thanks for sharing that Patrick.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      In another post on this page, I mentioned having bought a “retro” turntable and used 1960s-era records. I have found picture frames designed to frame vinyl record covers. I bought several and decorated some space in my back room with covers of albums I found in thrift stores. I have read about the mutual impact, in the ’60s and ’70s, between album cover art and art trends in general…at its best, back in the day, cover art was not just aesthetically pleasing, it was culturally influential.

  • Luke

    What’s a record? ;)
    My musical nostalgia revolves around tape cassettes and recording Western music off our very Eastern (Block) national radio. The goal was to get as much of a song as possible, while getting as little as possible of the DJ’s rambling.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      Ahhh, Luke, those of us who grew up in the “West” have no idea of what it was like in Eastern Europe in the past. Thanks for that reminder and thanks so much for using Aaron’s “What’s a record” line from one of his best “It’s a Tech World After All” cartoons on Boomer Tech Talk (http://bit.ly/TW8Record).

    • David Weber (from the article)

      I was in Berlin this past May (2010). One day I visited a museum devoted to exhibits concerning East Berlin and East Germany from 1945 to 1990. One of the exhibits included selections of recorded music from East Berlin pop groups from perhaps the 1970s. The music seemed tame, bubble gummy and unexceptional to me.

  • http://twitter.com/suzanneec Suzanne C

    Wow, did I just take a ride down memory lane! That Monkees album cover – I played “Last Train to Clarksville” until I wore grooves in the album. Thank you so much!!

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      So did I, Suzanne, so did I. I attended the “Teen Fair” a couple of years later and won their second album (the one in the first photo – in and among all the records and stuff in that photo) at one of the booths. Thanks so much for the comment and regular support SC!

  • Lkcbgirls

    I love the Monkees!!, Jackson 5, Donnie & Marie, Cher……I don’t know if I still have my 45s from back then, but I had a bunch. Wow, it must’ve been awesome to meet them like that. Thanks for sharing.

  • Lkcbgirls

    I love the Monkees!!, Jackson 5, Donnie & Marie, Cher……I don’t know if I still have my 45s from back then, but I had a bunch. Wow, it must’ve been awesome to meet them like that. Thanks for sharing.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      And, thanks for your comment. It’s fun to look back now and then. I just never want to be the characters in Springsteen’s “Glory Days!” lol…

  • Foursunsfans

    What a trip down memory lane. I remember Wallachs! I believe they had a store in Woodland Hills as well. Every weekend I’d take my allowance and buy as many new 45′s or albums as I could. Back then, the 45′s were just $1. Considering you can download a song on I-Tunes for about the same, today’s prices are a bargain.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      You are so right about the cost of 45s and the cost of “a song” today. How ironic. But, I still loved holding those 45s and LPs, and browsing the stores, sometimes going to used record stores and finding cool old albums for 5 or 10 cents! I still have many of those with their 5 cent price tags still attached! Thanks for the comment.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      You are so right about the cost of 45s and the cost of “a song” today. How ironic. But, I still loved holding those 45s and LPs, and browsing the stores, sometimes going to used record stores and finding cool old albums for 5 or 10 cents! I still have many of those with their 5 cent price tags still attached! Thanks for the comment.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      So you’re a homeboy from El Lay! The other day, Bruce and I were trying to remember the name of a used record store on Fairfax. Bruce remembered it was called Aaron’s. Outstanding selection. When I left Los Angeles in 1982 for what turned out to be for good, I sold about one-third of my vinyl albums to Aaron’s for about 60-70 bucks.

      I have heard stories/reports of people going totally nuts after losing their iPods. At first, I didn’t understand why that would be such a big deal … sure, losing some hardware means you lost something that cost a couple of hundred bucks, perhaps. But that wouldn’t seem to be the end of the world. Then I realized that a person may invest 2, 3, 4, 5, thousand dollars assembling a play list! Yowzah! Now we’re talking a real loss, not to mention the time it took to located, download, compile, organize and catalogue the tunes. As I may have written elsewhere on this page, I personally do not have an iPod, but I imagine that 80% of my friends, and surely 99% of my students, own one.

  • http://twitter.com/jesskristie Butterfly

    Some great pics of the Monkee’s, I used to watch that show. I also love vinyl! I still have some. It is fun to see that even some newer music comes out in vinyl, although it is like a $30 purchase. Great article!

  • Keith

    I remember transistor radio, even built one with the Heath kit, remember those. Funny how things have come full circle. We’ve gone from the small handheld transistors to big stereos, Quad (remember that), Boom Boxes, big car stereo sound, all the way to radio coming out of our handheld smart phones.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      You’re more handy than me Keith. I think dealing with change and the speed of it, nowadays, is the hardest thing to handle, the older we get. Sometimes, I’d just like my good ol’ whatever to be just what I need vs. the pressure to upgrade and learn a new device all the time. I got a very cool “atomic” watch for the holidays. Not only can’t I read the manual, ’cause it’s so small, but it is apparently the most complicated watch I’ve ever seen or tried to figure out. I may just go back to an old-fashioned wind-up watch that JUST tells the time! Lol.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      I never thought of the irony of holding a transistor radio in your hand, to holding a mobile phone in your hand, both devices churning out music, bigger and bigger systems having filled the gap between the two hand-helds. You get 10 out of 10 on that one, Keith!

      A year or so ago, I purchased a newly-manufactured turntable, CD player, audiocassette player and radio rolled into one. I use it as a simple and inexpensive “retro” sound system in my back room, which is essentially a bar. I also bought about 2 dozen used early-1960s “easy-listening” vinyl albums over a period of a few months. When I entertain out back, serving cocktails and so on, the authentic “lounge music” produces a cool vibe.

  • http://twitter.com/suzanneec Suzanne C

    Bruce, twenty four hours later and I am still singing “Last Train to Clarksville” in my head!

    I was just taking a look at the boxes and boxes of records in the first photograph. Had I kept all my records, cassettes, 8-tracks I could have probably filled a room with them. But little by little over the years, as technology advanced I replaced one format with another and so on. Even the last few years I had replaced my cd’s with iPods. Even my iPods have been replaced with iPods. I imagine not too far into the future I shall be replacing them with something else even smaller and with more storage capacity.

    I do miss the feel and smell and sounds of vinyl sometimes. But on the other hand, I can now carry my music with me wherever I go.

    Music has always been a very big part of my life, though I do not have that talent to make my own, music is like breathing air to me. Essential.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      I think it’s time we changed that tune in your head to another Monkees song that is less popular but really demonstrates their range of music and how they were not just a “Bubble Gum” band, but were pretty darn good (as Bill noted below). Do you know “Shades of Grey”? Check it out as it is terrific! I love that this post has stuck with you! Thanks for coming back Suzanne!

      • http://twitter.com/suzanneec Suzanne C

        I looked for “Shades of Grey” on YouTube, did not remember it at all. Nice song but I don’t even remember seeing that album cover.

        My bubble gum days didn’t last long. With two cousins 10 and 12 years older than me my musical interests quickly transitioned to Bob Dylan, Jefferson Airplane and The Doors. Though being only 8 or 9 at the time, I had no idea what any of the lyrics meant!

        • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

          This really terrific Monkees song, Shades of Gray on iTunes is well worth listening to.

  • VinylForever1951

    I get so disgusted with every generation of “new music device” that comes out and the manufacturers all want us to buy it all over again! It’s the ultimate in “re-purposing” and it’s at OUR expense! That said, I still love the sound of vinyl! Great post; great fun!

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      It’s the “American Way!” lol… but I agree with you. Look how iTunes is now milking The Beatles catalog and it’s 4 decades old!

    • David Weber (from the article)

      You’re probably aware of the “rediscovery” of vinyl as an appealing format for recorded music. Those who preferred vinyl during the years of, let’s say, 1985-2000, when CDs were king, always referred to the “warmer” sound of vinyl. A vinyl recording on a disk that was in pristine condition, pressed from the best equipment, and played back on the finest hardware, has always rivaled CD reproduction in fidelity, plus has that “warmth.” I have heard and read about how common it is for indie bands to record in vinyl.

      • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

        I agree with DW that there was a warmer sound to vinyl plus I think the whole experience was inherently more special. I know that sounds sort of silly, to some degree, but holding those albums, reading the liner notes, getting the ones that opened up and had more photos and info, even the paper over of the album itself was fun. Those covers often had the label’s other releases all over both sides and it was fun to just peruse those images.

        So different. Better or just another “Glory Days” type of memory that one generation holds on to?

      • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

        I agree with DW that there was a warmer sound to vinyl plus I think the whole experience was inherently more special. I know that sounds sort of silly, to some degree, but holding those albums, reading the liner notes, getting the ones that opened up and had more photos and info, even the paper over of the album itself was fun. Those covers often had the label’s other releases all over both sides and it was fun to just peruse those images.

        So different. Better or just another “Glory Days” type of memory that one generation holds on to?

      • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

        I agree with DW that there was a warmer sound to vinyl plus I think the whole experience was inherently more special. I know that sounds sort of silly, to some degree, but holding those albums, reading the liner notes, getting the ones that opened up and had more photos and info, even the paper over of the album itself was fun. Those covers often had the label’s other releases all over both sides and it was fun to just peruse those images.

        So different. Better or just another “Glory Days” type of memory that one generation holds on to?

      • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

        I agree with DW that there was a warmer sound to vinyl plus I think the whole experience was inherently more special. I know that sounds sort of silly, to some degree, but holding those albums, reading the liner notes, getting the ones that opened up and had more photos and info, even the paper over of the album itself was fun. Those covers often had the label’s other releases all over both sides and it was fun to just peruse those images.

        So different. Better or just another “Glory Days” type of memory that one generation holds on to?

  • http://www.facebook.com/Koremora Tyler Westcott

    I really enjoyed your “back in the day” take on the experience of owning and listening to music. However, are you aware that vinyl is actually making a fairly large comeback in recent years? Many independent and major label artists from a broad spectrum of genres are pressing their new releases to vinyl in larger and larger quantities. While vinyl never really died, the democratization of music in the 2000s spurred by the growing independent or “indie” scene in the 90s gave rise to a small but committed community of listeners to whom the physicality and sound of vinyl appealed. Predictably, as MP3s have taken over the role of digital/portable music, CD sales have declined significantly. In contrast, that group of committed listeners has only grown, and vinyl sales have risen exponentially.

    Major label pop groups and self-released experimental groups alike are all seizing the opportunity to push vinyl once again, and the resurgence of Record Store Day (http://recordstoreday.com/CustomPage/381) drives this point home. Here are a few well-written articles about the phenomenon: http://www.timesdaily.com/article/20100216/ARTICLES/2165035?Title=The-return-of-vinyl and http://www.mndaily.com/2009/04/15/return-vinyl .

    Personally, I have a fairly large vinyl collection (close to 100 or more records) that continues to grow on a near daily basis (my bank account weeps for my vinyl addiction). Companies such as Audio-Technica continue to produce new turntable technology at affordable prices. My love of exploring and discovering new and experimental music makes owning the large format art of vinyl far preferable to cheap and transient CD jewel cases. Nearly every single artist that I listen to and enjoy presses new releases on vinyl, and that group numbers in the hundreds. The new paradigm in music listening is clearly MP3 for portability and vinyl for superior home listening. I thought you might be interested to know that the culture of music you loved in your youth is still alive and thriving, and perhaps even more robust now than it ever has been, as these key independent metal artists attest: http://www.noisecreep.com/2009/09/09/vinyl-in-the-digital-age-straight-from-the-horses-mouth-talki/ .

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Tyler, thanks for your comments. You have effectively “bridged” between old-school vinyl and contemporary approaches to consuming music by listening to vinyl recordings. I agree that the large size of the vinyl sleeve allows for attractive and complex art. When I have seen CD versions of albums from 3-4 decades ago, I do see the cover art reproduced on the CD…but it’s like watching an epic movie on a 19-in. t.v. screen. Thanks again, Tyler.

  • http://www.facebook.com/MartaBaird Marta Rose Baird

    Me and my roommate have a lot of vinyls… I’m 19 but was raised with an appreciation for the older music… I just love the crackly sound of a record! Cd’s and iPod’s just haven’t got anything on it!
    Also, I can’t believe you met The Monkees! Awesome!!

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      Love hearing from “you kids!” Thanks so much for the comment Marta!

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Hello, Marta, apparently your parents raised you right! I appreciate your contribution to this conversation.

  • Angela N. Hunt

    I find it interesting that where young adults once flocked to find new vinyls, now they can share new musical discoveries on Facebook where groups of “fans” can find each other. Sometimes, people join “fan” sites merely because their friends do, and never actually experience the music. Back in the days of vinyl, you had to have listened to the music to have an opinion about it, and often your opinion was your own. Now, it’s easy to copy someone else’s interpretation of a song just by becoming a “fan”.

    But why would individuals want to “like” something they haven’t experienced?

    Some individuals want to be considered an “insider”, or the member of a group, because other insiders will share a connection with the new member. Many Facebook users, for example, “like” things that many others like, simply because it is popular culture. In this way, a simple characteristic of a culture, specifically pop culture, can control the behavior of individuals.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Hello, Angela, as I wrote to Erin, you are right on the money in reference to talking about culture. I like the idea of “insider” and “outsider.” Sometimes, to be an “outsider” to one culture is to be an “insider” to another … think about the cultures in a middle school, for example, where the students who are in one cultural group define themselves in part by NOT being in another cultural group. Thanks for your perceptive comment.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      What you are saying is really no different from any generation. It just manifests differently every couple of decades. Good observation Angela – thanks for commenting!

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      What you are saying is really no different from any generation. It just manifests differently every couple of decades. Good observation Angela – thanks for commenting!

  • http://www.facebook.com/skylarrr Skylar Gosnell

    After reading this article, I realized I have recently been involved in what is called the general experiential context. Since coming to college, I have been introduced to vinyls as my roommate has a record player. I have found that putting in the effort of playing a record leads to so much more overall satisfaction and enjoyment of the music verses one just merely hitting the “play” button on an ipod. So much more satisfaction, in fact, that I have recently started purchasing vinyls at thrift stores! (part of the enjoyment is getting to pick through all the old records.. the old musty smells emanating from them just seems to transports you back in time!)

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Hello, Skylar, as I wrote to Matt, I would like to know what vinyl recordings have caught your eye or attention. Are you choosing based on music…the performer/group/artist…the cover art…or some other criterion? Or are you choosing based on several criteria? Thanks for your comment.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      Yeah Skylar!

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      Yeah Skylar!

  • Sarah T

    I felt a strong connection to the relationship element of the message being sent through this personal experience. Although the content element of the story seems simple, the greater meaning is to appreciate the importance of simplicities in life. The relationship element of the story resonates differently and brings back a variety of ideas and meanings to every reader. From a young age my parents have taught me to appreciate vintage items. My dad has collected vinyls for as long as I can remember and always has great childhood stories to go along with the records. Reading this personal experience really took me back to my childhood with many good memories of my parents.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      I can relate to what your parents taught you: I don’t think it was because my parents taught me to, but somehow or other, over the years, I have come to appreciate vintage/retro material culture. I’m not a traditionalist, or conservative in thought or ideology, but I appreciate the quality, design and ethos of many vintage/retro/”old-school” items.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      Hmmm, I like your comment Sarah, but you inadvertently made me feeling older than my late parents when I thought they were old fogies!

  • Ethan Edwards

    As a college student I am surrounded by bohemian beatniks who romantically proclaim that music is their life, their everything. It seems to me, however, that people were much more involved with their music back in the 60′s. Perhaps music played an integral role in the social upheaval and therefore represented rebellion causing it to be more dear to the heart. Or perhaps it’s too easy to put music out nowadays because record labels no longer stand in the way of an artist wanting to communicate his message, (there is no gatekeeper, per se) therefore the market is flooded with trash (my dad would agree). But since we have such enormous access to music, and no fiscal wall to stop us from obtaining it (let’s be honest, no college kid pays for songs), it would seem that our generation would be more in tune with music. We certainly listen to it more since thousands of songs can be carried in our pockets. But do we really value it? The way Dr. Weber talks about his record collection, I felt legitimately sad for his loss. The flood ruined a part of him. If someone loses their Ipod, I will offer the casual “sorry” but i won’t really care because they can download that music again in no time. Plus it’s kind of hard to make fond memories of pressing a button that says “download torrent.” We suffer too little to get something so important. The culture has changed–we listen to music more, but value it less. There’s actually a great documentary about this problem made by a UNCW alumni, it’s called “Firewall of Sound.” Anyways, great article, great music, can’t wait to see where technology takes us next.

    • http://ItsDifferent4girls.com Linda Sherman

      If someone were willing to pay to see Firewall of Sound, it might get seen by more people. I looked it up on IMDB and it hasn’t gotten 5 votes yet. It is rather sad that “no college kid pays for songs”.

      In our household our music is backed up on iTunes so that if an iPod gets lost, the music is not. There are attempts at protection that have irritated me such as the zones on DVD’s to protect against cheap copies produced overseas – that means I need special equipment to watch DVD’s from Europe. But overall, I sympathize with the fiscal challenges of monetizing music production. Those challenges certainly affect the quality of what we all get – and as you point out – the value we place on it.

      • http://twitter.com/firewallofsound Firewall of Sound

        “Firewall of Sound” is currently touring the festival circuit, but we hope to get distribution so everyone can see it later in the year. In the meantime, you can follow us on Twitter @firewallofsound to find out where and when upcoming screenings are happening.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      “Ethan Edwards” — the name of one of the most memorable characters portrayed by John Wayne (in “The Searchers”)! It is a mystery to me how one can get music without paying for it, other than borrowing and recording a friend’s CD or something like that. Shows you how behind the times I am. For me, acquiring music means buying CDs.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      Love your candid and forthright comment Ethan. Yeah, I know many of the younger generation still “find” their music for free. I’ve heard that it’s a rebellion of sorts against the “big companies” but no matter how you rationalize it is still stealing. I’m currently in the Far East where they’ve refined that to an art with no consequences and the result is killing our record companies and hurting music in many ways. Thankfully, the balance is that almost any artist can put their music “out there” so the opportunities may even be greater, but the need to know how to market yourself is so much greater.

  • Erin Kiffmeyer

    I enjoyed reading about the culture of this generation and their music. Dr. Webber’s passion for vinyl records really jumped off the page. It is clear from his habits of mind, heart, and behavior towards these timeless records that he really embraces this almost “lost” culture. As an outsider of this culture, I can not relate or share these emotions, but I do respect and appreciate their eagerness to remain true to their first love, vinyl records.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Hello, Erin, you’ve really put your finger on something: “habits of mind, heart and behavior” is a good definition of culture; and yes, there have long been cultures made up of people who share a love of a certain kind of music, a certain mode of recording it, and perhaps those who share lifestyles revolving around some aspect of music.

  • Matt Soles

    This article between two life-long friends literally jumped off the page at me. I’m not sure if it was the passion for music, or the heartfelt relationship between two friends. As far back as I can remember, music has had such an impact on really everything that I do. I’m also a fan of collecting vintage vinyls, therefore the love put into this article connected with me. I also really connected with the friendship aspect of this article. My best friends from home, still can bring up stories from years ago that I had forgotten about that immediately put a smile on my face.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Hello, Matt, thanks for your comment. You are making some very good observations. Some day I would like to hear what vinyl recordings you have acquired. As for friendships, the older you get, the more remarkable it is to have people in your life who go back over half-a-century with you.

  • Jenna Cameron

    I very much enjoyed reading the nostalgic article on the relationship of two men with their records and how the careful handling of records and day trips are no longer a part of the identity making process for current teens searching for themselves in music. Professor Weber (DW) has a lovely way of describing the physical relationship that he had with every record he listened to. There was one place in his response that left me wanting more information. After the comment,”The album, a Christmas present at age 15 or so, represented one of my first excursions away from an obedient and straight-arrow life.” I wanted more as an outsider to the generation. I wanted to ask “specifically what made this album a stray away from an obedient and straight arrow life.” I felt like this statement was to broad or an over generalization that made me want to know exactly why Professor Weber viewed his life as straight and narrow till this specific album purchase!

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Hello, Jenna, your observation is valid and I appreciate your insight. Here is what I meant when I made the broad statement: I attended a private school that, for the first five of the six years I attended, required students to wear a prescribed military-style uniform. During the mid- and late 1960s, I kept my hair very short, when my friends from public schools were letting their hair grow longer and longer. Through most of high school, I was not permitted to watch television Sun. through Thursday nights, because the next night was to be a school night. In short, I grew up in a loving but somewhat conservative family environment. My parents often declared that they “didn’t understand the music kids are playing these days.” So when I became the owner of The Beatles’ The White Album, it was one of the first times that I stepped away from the “straight and narrow” lifestyle that I had lived for so many years. As the years went by, I became less and less conservative; by the time I was a sophomore in college, I was essentially a hippie, and two years later I dropped out of school to travel abroad and, in my twenties, follow my own path. But the roots of all those changes first were set when I began listening to The White Album in or around the 9th or 10th grade.

  • Jhm2304

    After reading this article, I feel that I am able to relate to Dr. Weber and his love for his musical collection. Although I do not own a single vinyl, I myself have a collection of music that I hold dear to my heart. Due to enhanced technology, I have the ability to compile my personal collection on a portable hard drive. Through this modern advantage of mass culture, I have been able to attain some of the most unique music as well as share my passion with others via internet.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      You are identifying one of the most interesting features of today’s approaches to listening to music: the sharing. When Bruce and I were young, the only way to share music was to bring your vinyl record over to your friend’s house and play it for him there; or he would come to your place and you’d play it there. At some point late in high school, I bought an audiotape boombox that I could plug into my stereo and record music and share it that way. But still, this all took time and energy. Now, to engage in the relationship-building act of sharing music, you can simply attach an audiofile to an email, or text your friend to check out a tune on youtube iTunes or the like. Instant sharing, and perhaps close bonding!

      • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

        Great point DW!

  • Jaimie Mullen

    After reading this article, I feel that I am able to relate to Dr. Weber and his love for his musical collection. Although I do not own a single vinyl, I myself have a collection of music that I hold dear to my heart. Due to enhanced technology, I have the ability to compile my personal collection on a portable hard drive. Through this modern advantage of mass culture, I have been able to attain some of the most unique music as well as share my passion with others via internet.

  • Crimson Sunrise Walton

    I love hearing stories about people being in love with their vinyl collection! I sometimes feel as though I’ve missed the vinyl boat since I was born in 1981. DW, and almost every boomer has an incredible story about the vinyl days and how their collection really was a true expression of themselves. I had the pleasure of growing up in a home with parents that were “hippies turned yuppies” and they too had a fantastic collection of vinyl. When I go back home to visit my dad always gets out his old Beatles and Lennon records and goes down memory lane with me; it’s great! I think the sound quality is much better on records than on any new technology, it’s just so crisp the way music should be! It also seems like you take more ownership of the music you’re listening to when you actually have to work the needle and make it just perfect, as DW says.

    The historicity of records is so unique and important, and so are all of the beautiful stories that shaped the lives of teenagers and college kids listening to them at the time. Never again will any generation get to experience what it felt like to walk into a record store. Not only will they never walk into a record store but they will never even know what it’s like to have to actually wait until you get home to listen to your purchase! Oh how the pros and cons of technology are endless.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      I think that your final comment is on the money: technology affords us so much by way of connection and information, yet it requires so much of our time and attention that the benefits are overlooked. I am delighted that you liked my stories of the vinyl in my life.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      Yes, you made an excellent point Crimson about patience. So much of what we grew up with required patience. Movies were not available on any form of video so you could only see them in theaters and then, sometime later, on television with commercials and often ruthlessly edited just to fit a time-slot. I remember when “Gone With The Wind” was a major event on television as was the annual showing of “The Wizard of Oz.” But, you have the ability to see it all today. Maybe not the same group experience but the availability of all forms of music, film, and television at the push of a button is truly extraordinary!

  • http://www.facebook.com/laurakeaton Laura Keaton

    I find this commentary on the evolution of “tech culture” very interesting. I do remember a time before iPods–creepily enough I’ll probably shock my children with that fact one day– yet the evolution of digitally available music coincided with my coming of age as a consumer, making me an insider to the culture of the shuffle-happy masses, fully accustomed to the instant searching, buying, & downloading of music. I do not, however, think that the ubiquity of digital music will ever fully eclipse vinyls. Record shops still exist– Schoolkid’s Records is just one example– as does an avid appreciation for the enhanced features of vinyls, including the artwork, fold-outs, the complex ambience of the sound itself. All of these things– even, if not especially, the “minor surgery” involved in putting one on– can be adoringly embraced when someone takes the time to let you experience listening to vinyls for yourself.

    In a way, I think that digital music may even work harmoniously with the marketing of vinyls. Listening to music online is much more economical than “trying it on” via vinyl. I usually get the music quickly and cheaply online…but when I go out and buy the vinyl, it’s a sign of utter admiration and it’s going to be something I keep with me for a long time.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      As is often the case, Laura, new technology allows us to enjoy old technology in new ways. Now, say that backwards. Thanks for the comment Laura – another interesting contribution to our article and so appreciated!

    • David Weber (from the article)

      I didn’t think of that…yes, the choice to buy vinyl today can be preceded by checking out the tunes online, so that when you buy the vinyl today, you know exactly what you’re getting.

  • Courtney McGovern

    This article has got me thinking a lot about music and how it has impacted my life. Though I am not musically inclined, I spend most of my days discovering new music and listening to it. The description of Wallach’s Music City is the first time I have really been envious and saddened by the fact all the music I listen to comes from online. From vinyl records to Pandora radio, I am now realizing we’ve lost something so important within our music– artifacts. We now have no pictures, lyrics, or hard copies of the music we listen to except in a tiny little ipod that is bound to stop working as technology advances and years pass. This is all just another example of how throughout time communication is changing. We have lost the human interaction in record stores shared amongst music lovers. The relationship between the two long time friends in the article is something to aspire to! I can only hope my close friends will stay close throughout decades.

    • David Weber (from the email)

      Wait until you’re in your fifties and think back on 5-6 decades of knowing one person, with both of you having gone though almost all of your ups and downs throughout those decades together. And remember, friendship is essentially “voluntary,” in a way that being a close relative, for example, is not. You have heard the old saying: “You can pick your nose…you can pick your friends…but you can’t pick your friend’s nose….”

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      Wow, that is an excellent point Courtney. The lack of “artifacts” is a substantial difference.

  • Arie Gee

    I will admit, I very much enjoy playing Pandora on long road trips and not relying on the actual radio for entertainment. However, some of my fondest memories are house cleaning days when I was growing up. My mom would put “The Big Chill” soundtrack on the record player and we would dance around the house and sing as we cleaned. I can still sing every word to every song on the album. This article takes me back to a time when life seemed so simple.

    The complexity of today’s world is largely due to changing demographics. In a few short years music has evolved from records to casette tapes to cds to mp3s. Portability seems to be the largest factor that influences musical technology because of the consumer demand. As Dr. Weber pointed out, he used to have crates of records. Today, a pocket-sized device can hold all of that music and more. I am happy to have fond memories of records as well as the convenience of an Ipod!

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      “The Big Chill” soundtrack was quite precedential in its time as maybe one of the first albums to collect a group of songs from a specific era and create a mood, a feeling. Professor Weber – do you think it was a first of its kind? Thanks so much for bringing that up, Arie.

      • David Weber (from the article)

        I would imagine it was one of the biggest selling such albums of its kind. I would say that the American Graffitti soundtrack had some of that era-mood-feeling to it, although of an earlier era. Another movie that came out at about the time American Graffitti did was called Cooley High. As “white-bread” as American Graffitti’s setting was, Cooley High’s was not…it was set in Harlem or South Philly of the early ’60s and was an evocation of the African American cultural vibe of that time and place. Its soundtrack was predominantly soul music. I would say that Big Chill was the first movie and soundtrack that represented the baby boomers’ late teens and early twenties experience. What was not brought out too much in the Big Chill was that the U.S. troops in Vietnam had special feelings for a few of the songs that happen to appear in the soundtrack/movie. The classic example of such a song (which is not, however, on the soundtrack) was The Animals’ “We Gotta Get Outta This Place.” On one website developed by some Vietnam veterans, there is this page on which the songs that meant something special to the troops are listed: http://www.ichiban1.org/html/music.htm#2 Certainly, the college-friends-in-their-30s-in-the-early-1980s was one large cohort of baby boomers; but troops in Vietnam was certainly another estimable part of that cohort. (In the movie, the character played by William Hurt was a Vietnam vet.)

  • Hannah Brewer

    Although I’ve never played a vinyl record, been in a record store, or owned a record player, I most definitely have appreciation for this era of music. I can very much relate to Dr. Weber in the fact that music has helped me shape so many memories. I share a similar experience to Dr. Weber when he received his The Beatles’ The White Album, only my experience involved getting a Britney Spears’ CD. I remember making a homemade music video with one of my friends to a song from this CD and feeling so scandalous and rebellious. It is amazing to me to look at how music has shaped our culture throughout the years. As mentioned by Dr. Weber in this article, music has gone from the monumental task of putting a vinyl record on a record player to simply logging on to iTunes and pressing the “Buy” button. It has become a habit of mind, heart, and behavior for our generation to put as little energy as possible into our everyday tasks such as buying and playing music. If I had it my way, I’d go back to the times where people went to record stores to browse for unique records in exchange for logging on to iTunes and buying a song off the “Top 100 songs”.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      Hannah, you made me laugh out loud comparing The Beatles’ “White Album” with anything from Britney Spears. Priceless and thank you for commenting!

    • David Weber (from the article)

      This was comment that produced some insight for me, Hannah. You wrote that “it has become a habit of mind, heart, and behavior for our generation to put as little energy as possible into [certain] everyday tasks.” That is what many members of older cohorts (i.e., generations) say about the current one. The insight is: that has ALWAYS been a fundamental complaint made by the not-so-young about the young. I think it’s back to something we discussed in class recently: that when you are 19 or 20 or so, your brain’s prefrontal cortext, which governs decision-making, awareness of and respect for the norms that condition social behavior and assessment of consequences of action taken or not taken, is not fully developed. You are using low-quality tools to build your life, and you have to know this in the event and compensate for it. Putting out limited energy makes perfect sense if the future is a murky concept and if decision-making is difficult. That’s why I never hesitate to encourage students to drop out of college, take a powder and mature some! Doing so worked for me and Bruce … we did it at different times, but we each did it!

  • Jessica Duckett

    I never lived in the vinyl era, since I was born in 1991, but I always had fun playing with my dad’s records. After reading this article though, I feel as if through Dr. Wber’s memories I now know what it may have been like to aquire music and memories that way. This article does an excellent job at connecting two very different cultures; our culture now of mp3 players and music onthe internet with the culture of records. With all of the personal stories through out the article a relationship is built between the story teller and their audience.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Good observation about how a relationship between storyteller and audience gets constructed. The stories, if they are about the storyteller’s life, amount to what is called self-disclosure. Unless it is done when unwanted or not appropriate, self-disclosure tends to be effective in facilitating empathy and rapport between “self” and “other.”

  • http://twitter.com/maxmlit Max Lit

    Being a lifelong fan of music spanning many genre’s, I certainly understand the anticipation and thrill that accompanies acquiring a new piece of music. I still recall the day in 1996 when I asked my brother (who is now 25, four years my senior) why the American flag design on the front his newly purchased cassette looked different than usual. He then said, “It’s a Union Jack, Oasis is from the U.K, you moron.” Fifteen years and seemingly countless listens later, “What’s the Story, Morning Glory?” continues to be, hands down, my favorite album of all time. The thing about the music that strikes me the most is it’s ability to transcend. It sort of takes on a life of it’s own. For my brother and I, Oasis is not just a collection of songs, it’s a lifestyle. It’s embedded in the way you carry yourself, the ability to exude self-confidence, and most importantly, the ability to celebrate life. When speaking with fans of music older than myself, I often hear of bootleg tapes collections from decades past (i.e Grateful Dead, Led Zeppelin). Then I think to myself, those are now outdated as YouTube has now created a medium with which I can watch high quality videos of my favorite songs from my favorite gigs. A way that my brother and I keep in touch is through Facebook, and it is a regular occurrence that he will post a YouTube link on my wall to an Oasis video from a specific gig in a specific year. This is modern bootlegging.

    I may be distorting what you wrote, Dr. Weber, but it seems as if you believe that because it is less common for today’s music fans to physically interact with the music (smelling the cardboard, feeling the vinyl, etc.), the evolution of technology has in turn stripped away something important from the experience of enjoying the music. I believe quite the opposite. I get just as much, if not more, of a thrill combing through the pages of YouTube and finding new videos as I have when placing a new CD in my computer. The digital age and its accessibility is something to be embraced, not dismissed.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      I appreciate your slightly contrary reaction to Professor Weber’s interaction as it clarifies, for me, how music can be special for every generation in every form it is available. For us, it was those record albums and for you it’s a more contemporary feel. Both have validity and it’s sort of the inevitable clash of generations. Thanks so much for sharing Max

    • David Weber (from the article)

      If I appear to have made a judgment about my experience being in some way superior to any of today’s experiences with music, I didn’t mean that at all. I was only attempting to call attention to the kinesthetic and sensory experience of opening and handling (and smelling!) vinyl records as fulfilling in its own way. I truly would not suggest that my experience was better or more aesthetically sound than perusing youtube lists or looking through the catalogue of Pandora, iTunes or any other encounter with music recorded digitally. (By the way, I often visit youtube to listen to music, usually because a song pops into my head and I want to hear it, or because I read about a song in a news article and, because I am unfamiliar with it, I want to hear it. You can’t beat the immediacy and instant gratification that youtube makes possible!)

  • http://twitter.com/maxmlit Max Lit

    Here is an example of what I am talking about. Enjoy!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zixWZBWSt_w&feature=related

  • Brittany Bryant

    The first connection I made after reading this article was through physical books and the new fad of I-reading. Similar to what was being discussed with the replacement of vinyl records to digital play lists, I feel that personal nostalgia loses its magic when it is replaced with its digital counterpart. The magic of holding my favorite book, a collection of poems by Walt Whitman, and with Dr. Weber, the magic of his vinyl records, is lost in translation when its transferred to a media form. These actual items, not necessarily their digital counterparts, evoke a certain amount of pathos in the owner that can never be accomplished by something so easily available with the click of a “download now” button.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      I’m assuming you’re a student, Brittany, and therefore I appreciate your comment even more because you represent the future and hopefully the balance of the old and the new as technology continues its inevitable march forward (or is it forward?). Thanks so much for the comment.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Thanks for the comment, Brittany. The memories that Bruce and I were resurrecting covered the years from about 1965-1980. Not too many years later, vinyl started getting phased out of circulation…music stores began selling vinyl at steep discounts and racks for CDs were installed. Audiotapes had become popular but were always sold near the racks of vinyl and, for a few years until audiotape started to disappear, CDs. The point is: the memories of which we wrote come from three to four-and-a-half decades ago. In three to four-and-a-half decades from when you were in your teens and early 20s — let’s say that will be roughly 2030 to 2045 — you’ll be looking back on the music you listened to then, and how it was recorded and played back, and comparing it to the way it will have turned out to be in 2020, 2030, 2040. I wonder what those not-yet-developed technologies will be?

  • Cindymerck

    Although it seems that the vinyl record era is lost and forever in the past, I must say that is is still very much alive. My boyfriend is a DJ and he has two record players or “turn tables”, and he is always buying vinyls, new or old. I loved the language that DW used throughout the article, especially when he noted, “…inhale the scent of cut cardboard as you pull away the cellophane wrapper.” It was very vivid and compelling. This reminded me of my boyfriend the other day when he opened Deer Hunter’s new album that was vinyl. I know that there are three places in Wilmington that sell vinyls and all three make my boyfriend a happy customer. Not only does my boyfriend buy vinyls but a lot of his friends do too. It is easier to go on to Apple’s itunes store or other markets of that sort, but I know that I and many other people still like to listen to vinyl. I think that it could actually be cheaper. I know some record players or “turn tables” are cheaper than say an ipod touch or ishuffle, and vinyls are pretty cheap for the most part. Continuing, I lived in Hollywood this past summer and I believe a Border’s is in the place of the historical Wallach’s Music City. There are not many places like Wallach’s Music City but on Sunset Blvd. there is a store very similar. I honestly forget the name but they have talent come in and play and they also sign autographs as well as other things of that nature. So, vinyl is not yet extinct and I believe it never will be with people like my boyfriend, DW, Bruce Sallan, and many others who love that smell of a fresh vinyl revealing itself from the newly unrapped cardboard sleeve.

    Thanks DW and Bruce Sallan for disclosing your feelings and thoughts about you passion for vinyls and the digital world. My boyfriend and I enjoyed reading this.

    Cynthia Merck

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      Cynthia, the store you’re referring to is called Amoeba Music and it is almost directly across the street from where Wallach’s used to be. Amoeba is indeed a throwback to the times we allude to in this article. They have racks and racks of used LPs and many re-issues as well as current music released in vinyl. They also have hanging on their walls literally hundreds of 45s (aka “Singles”), most of which are waaayy over-priced. Your boyfriend obviously gets what we’re talking about, but it’s still a different world today. Thanks for the thoughtfully comment.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      I think I’ll go into one of the stores that sells vinyl and see if they will play some vinyl recordings for me. I haven’t, to my knowledge, heard any of today’s vinyl pressings. Thanks for the post, Cindy.

  • Kara Zimmerman

    I cannot relate to stories of records and record stores since I am of a younger generation and did not listen to records. However I have witnessed how music has changed over the years. I remember as a young girl listening to cassette tapes and then to CDs in my CD player. Over the years the CD players got smaller and more technologically advanced until finally the iPod came out. Every year since the iPod has came out it has gotten small, slimmer, and can now hold more songs, videos, pictures, games, and much more. Sometimes I think that now people pay more attention to what high tech machine is playing their music rather than what music they are actually listening to. Even though what plays our music has drastically changed over the centuries, music has remained the same for the most part. Music has remained a form of entertainment as well as a form of communication. Music conveys messages and ideas to one another just like communication does.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      I would say that music is not like communication, it is communication in a specific form. Thanks for your post, Kara.

  • Naomi Lemmond

    While reading this article, I could not help but imagine my father’s “record room” in my parent’s house. I wasn’t born until 1991, so by the time I was able to aquire my own taste for music I was buying CDs and walkmen. Technology has only continued to progress and I, like many others, own a iPod touch. In one of Dr. Weber’s more recent lectures, we were presented with a quote regarding culture as “that part of the environment made by humans”. Modifications in technology and the arts are constantly being reformed by humans all over the globe; it is amazing how culture can be presented as a creative expression for the group. As time goes by, I belive that technological advances will continue to change the music world for generations to come.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Very nice application of what you learned in lecture! I read somewhere that Thomas Edison’s original vision for what one would use the telephone for was listening to music. The idea is that you would call a phone number that was linked to a place where music was being played, either live or recorded. You would stand there listening to music through the receiver, and hang up when you were through (or the music ended). I guess he was foreshadowing pay-per-view television, only for music!

  • Joy Ellis

    This article is interesting to me because I have never owned a record or known much about them. I am currently in Dr. Weber’s COM 105 class, and this article makes me think of our lecture on culture. One part of a definition (of culture) we learned was that “most of it tends to ‘make sense’ to insiders.” Having many records and feeling sentimental value towards them may not make sense in some cultures, but music plays a large part in our culture which makes something such as a record important to people.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Good observation, Joy. It would be easy to say, “Weber, how can you have attached so much meaning to your vinyl collection?” The short answer is: it seemed like a good idea at the time. The longer answer: During the years 1965-1975, to construct my identity as a member of the “youth culture” required in part to develop a certain relationship with music and its storage systems (i.e,. vinyl pressings) and additives (such as cover art on the albums, attending concerts with age-mates, accumulating vinyl recordings). I say “required” because having that kind of close relationship with music/etc. indicated to other “insiders” that I was like them, since they as well as I were subscribing to norms and values revolving around the symbolism to be made in the tangible, material aspects of music, as well as the intangible aspects such as how many groups you were familiar with, which ones you preferred and which songs you liked or disliked.

  • Tara Hardy

    Reading this account of how music has changed over time reminded me of the reading we recently did for Dr. Weber’s class. The study of rhetoric originated in ancient Greece and was used mostly for pubic speeches of persuasion and in the court system. People learned about communication through highly educated teachers. Communication consisted of two or more people speaking to one another. A person in that time had to make an effort to go out and communicate, similar to the effort required in going out to purchase a record. Now, communication has a variety of channels that can be accessed from almost anywhere, the same way that music can. Take this blog for example. You are able to broadcast your opinions and ideas about technology all from the comfort of your own home (or wherever you may be when writing this blog). I am not making an argument that one means of communication or acquiring music is better than the other, I just think it is interesting to consider the similarities in the evolution of music as well as that of communication.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Tara, thanks, that is an excellent point, which I had not thought of. Students and professors study a wide range of communication phenomena today, such as communication between two friends or spouses, communication among members of a group or organization, communication mediated by digital signals or visual images. But to study and analyze virtually the entire range of communication phenomena that we do today, we use tools, or evolutions or updates of tools, originally developed by rhetoricians in the Mediterranean region 3-4 millennia ago. As a communication specialist, you’ll never go wrong becoming as familiar as you can with the three appeals, the five canons and a variety of ethical principles for communicators that first emerged “back in the day” a couple of thousand years before the birth of Jesus.

  • Acp1963

    I can’t help but to read this article and be shocked at the degree music and the way it’s produced to the public has evolved over the years. I am envious that both you and Dr. Weber got to experience different views about the music world that I will never be able to relate to. When I dig in to my memory bank the earliest memory I can come up with is purchasing an actual produced album from an artist or band in the form of a CD-ROM. However, that seems like ages ago because now, as you mentioned in your article, you can simply click OK on ITUNES and the song is yours. This progressive evolution in the music industry makes me think or the lecture given by Dr. Weber in his COM 105 class on how the definition of communication has evolved over time. For an example in 1583 a popular definition for communication was “the interchange of conversation”. However, the definition was far off track from that original idea in 1672 when communication simply meant “holy communion” or in 1771 when communication was considered “sexual intercourse”. The same way this article has made it clear to me how much music and the processes behind it has changed, Dr. Weber’s lecture on defining communication has made it apparent how much the ideas of what is considered communication has evolved over time.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Hello, Anna, thanks for commenting on that particular lecture. It is one of my favorite lecture topics. When in about 1995 I first looked up communication in the Oxford English Dictionary — which is famous for including the history of the word’s meaning and usage in most of the entries — I was surprised by how vast a territory of meaning the word has covered. What underlies all of them, however, is this idea of CONNECTION, and that communication concerns the provess of how that connection gets or got constructed.

  • Lauren Van Trigt

    I really enjoyed reading this article and found it extremely interesting how much music and technology have advanced in a somewhat short amount of time. In a way I could relate to what Dr. Weber was saying about how the process overall of listening to music was something he enjoyed about the records he had, and being able to have it physically in front of him rather than an impersonal digital play list. I remember growing up my friends and I would have huge collections of CDs with which we would trade and borrow from one another, creating a special relationship between us. In Dr. Weber’s COM 105 class, we discussed what leads you to construct connections differently with different people. This made me think of how I had a special relationship with those friends, which was created on the basis of my “self” and “others” sharing a common love for music; a much different relationship then I had with my parents for example.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Right on point, Lauren. Thanks for commenting. Two well-know philosophers have thought about the “self”/”other” dichotomy and how it relates to communication. One, Emanuel Levinas, believed that the difference or gap between “self” and “other” was impossible to bridge; but by and through communication compassionately, ethically and humbly with one another, we can come as close as possible to bridging it. The other, Martin Buber, said that “self” and “other” CAN merge … how? By and through compassionate, ethical, humble communication with one another! Two philosophers, same scenario, two different conclusions. No way to “prove” which philosopher is “right,” all you can do is absorb their ideas, consider which philosopher is making the more effective case for his conclusion, and choose which conclusion ultimately resonates most deeply with you … and recognize that as years pass you may shift your alliance to the other conclusion–and even later, back again!

  • Keelee Johns

    Music has changed drastically ever since it was first invented. Artists are always trying to reinvent what we call music. Each decade can be boiled down and defined by the music that was popular at that time. The 70′s were the disco era. The 80′s are known for the hard core rock bands and the lifestyles they lived out. My era, the 90′s, was a time for pop and boy bands. The way we listen to music- through a record player, radio, cassette player, iPod- has changed as well. Although music is constantly shifting even daily, the purpose of music and the connection people feel through it remain the same. I feel that besides talking itself, music is the best communication device in existence. Many artists can express themselves through lyrics better than they can say how they feel. Also, just the sound of music itself added to lyrics can take people to another place where they feel the emotions the artist is trying to portray. Lyrics that express the emotion the listener feels at the time forms a connection between listener and artist. When two people enjoy the same artist, they can talk about their music for hours and attend all the concerts together. They have formed a connection. Communication is the construction of connection, and that’s exactly what music is. It’s a way of connecting with other human beings on a social level and also an emotional level.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Outstanding application of the idea that communication = the construction of connection! Thanks for your comment. One of my favorite stories about music as communication was a recollection by an interviewee in a well-known t.v. documentary miniseries called Eyes on the Prize. (You may have seen all or some of the series.) The interviewee, an African American woman who had participated in “The Movement,” i.e., the civil rights movement of several decades ago, recalled being arrested with a number of other protestors and taken to a police station. At one point, the arrestees were standing together in the station, each one worried and scared. At that point, though, they began singing a particular song together. The interviewee explained how strong they all felt as they joined their voices together, “constructing a connection” that enabled them to survive, perhaps even thrive, under dire circumstances. The story also illustrates for me the concept we addressed in class that “cultures are formed as we huddle together, nervously loquacious, at the edge of an abyss.” The arrestees were on the edge of an abyss and and formed bonds with one another not by loquacity, but by singing.

      • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

        Far out story David. Groovy, too.

  • Amanda Rosiak

    As a big music fan myself, I really enjoyed reading this article. I think it is fascinating how much technology has advanced over the past few decades. Not only was the article very interesting and informative, I could also relate to a lot of what the author was saying. Even though I never shopped for records, I can remember back in middle school and high school spending a good hour in music stores searching for CDs to buy. This was before the time of the iPod and other mp3 players. Getting a new CD for me was an exciting time, and to this day I still connect certain songs to particular times in my life. In Dr. Weber’s class, we learned a lot about relationships. A relationship, we learned, “does not apply to any type, length of time,” so on and so forth. Thinking back to the CDs I’ve purchased and songs I used to listen to, I can make a connection to all kinds of relationships. Whenever I hear a Coldplay song, I think back to a relationship I had with an old boyfriend; Coldplay was his favorite band, and I still think of the intimate relationship we had whenever I hear them come on the radio. I can also hear songs by Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys, and think back to good times with old friends of mine. Even though the relationship I have with a boyfriend is different from one I would have with a friend, I can still think of memories involving both groups of people with the help of a special song.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      One of the great joys of music is to experience the memories a song brings back, and I think you are referring to that joy, Amanda. I have so many examples, but here is a quick one: a song from about 1968 or ’69 called “Ma Belle Amie.” ( And of course, it is on youtube!…rightcheah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyOg9G-0lR4 ) I don’t hear this song often at all — I don’t have it on CD or on any playlist — and it wouldn’t be played on any radio station very often because it was only a top-ranked song for a short while, and anything but an iconic teen anthem like “Satisfaction” or “Smells Like Teen Spirit.” But whenever I do happen to hear it, or even think of it or hum it, I am back in 1969, driving over the winding Coldwater Canyon Blvd. at about midnight, on my way home from a date with the young lady who at the time was the love of my life. I can smell the tan peacoat I was wearing, and the fragrance of her perfume that lingered in the car. During that specific drive home, what was playing on Radio KHJ as I swerved through the dark curves of Coldwater? “Ma Belle Amie.”

    • David Weber

      One of the great joys of music is to experience the memories a song brings back, and I think you are referring to that joy, Amanda. I have so many examples, but here is a quick one: a song from about 1968 or ’69 called “Ma Belle Amie.” ( And of course, it is on youtube!…rightcheah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyOg9G-0lR4 ) I don’t hear this song often at all — I don’t have it on CD or on any playlist — and it wouldn’t be played on any radio station very often because it was only a top-ranked song for a short while, and anything but an iconic teen anthem like “Satisfaction” or “Smells Like Teen Spirit.” But whenever I do happen to hear it, or even think of it or hum it, I am back in 1969, driving over the winding Coldwater Canyon Blvd. at about midnight, on my way home from a date with the young lady who at the time was the love of my life. I can smell the tan peacoat I was wearing, and the fragrance of her perfume that lingered in the car. During that specific drive home, what was playing on Radio KHJ as I swerved through the dark curves of Coldwater? “Ma Belle Amie.”

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      For me, songs always have evoked memories. When those memories were connected to a relationship, it often meant the end of that song in my life, as I didn’t like that particular connection. One song survived all relationships as I refused to let it become embroiled in anything as superficial as “a relationship!” That song is and was “My Girl” by The Temptations and always stood the test of time, for me!

  • Hillary Linn

    As I was reading this article, I began to instantly form a connection with it. I love hearing about things such as albums, and record stores, because these things are such foreign concepts for my generation. I am fascinated by the fact that going down to the record store and listening to these albums, and perhaps even buying one was such an event. Now we can just sit in the comfort of our home and buy any song online, which in my opinion takes away from the excitment. Ever since I was young, I have heard my parents tell me the stories of when they got their first albums, and how they would spend an entire day with their friends just hanging out and exploring the world of music in the record stores. Just by their expression on their faces, I can instantly tell that music was a large part of their culture back then, and has contributed to many of their cherished childhood memories. While I have not had the experience of owning an album or going down to the record store, there is music from my childhood that brings back great memories. I can remeber the Christmas that I got my first CD and the amount of joy it brought me! As I was reading this article, it automatically got me thinking about the concept of culture that we have discussed in my COM 105 class. When I was a kid you were considered an “insider” if you listened to what the majority of kids thought was the cool music, and so if you were listening to perhaps some less popular music you would be considered an” outsider”. I definitely think that music and culture directly relate to one another, and I think this article is a perfect example of that!

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Good insight, Hillary. Thanks for the post. When you were a kid — let’s say specifically a young teenager, around 14-16 or so — you were an insider to one culture and an outsider to another. You were an “outsider” to the culture at large, let’s call it the mainstream national culture, because to a greater or lesser degree, the values and norms of that culture mark you as ill-equipped yet to contribute to or participate in many of its key defining events (political decisions, policy formulation, commercial operations, and so on). Yet you were at the same time an insider to some culture with a membership consisting of your age mates. Maybe yours was the “jock” culture, or the “geek” culture, or some other such cultural group in your high school. Part of how you defined yourselves as members of the group involved recognizing the differences between you and your “insider” associates, and “outsiders.” The latter would have been not only in other groups of agemates, but between you and members of the mainstream cultural group, Age is a significant sorting criterion; and whenever a person is in one cohort (i.e., age group), it is not uncommon to at least sometimes wish to be in another. To compensate for that, a person celebrates what is best, or what “insiders” perceive to be best, about the cohort one is in. Hence, I can tell you all about what makes being in my late fifties good, whereas for you, the thought of being 58 would be dismaying. Whenever I think “I wish I were ___ years old again,” it is always with the rider “…as long as I could bring into that revisited age the ‘wisdom’ I have acquired up to this point in my life.” The putative accumulation of wisdom — the claim that I’ve acquired wisdom and I wouldn’t part with it — lies at the heart of the argument one builds in favor of being an age that is older than one that otherwise would “most devoutly to be wished” (as Shakespeare wrote).

      • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

        This whole “Insider” and “Outsider” thing seems specific to Communications studies, or is it Professor Weber? There’s no doubt there have been cliques throughout history and certainly as long as I can remember, in schools.

  • Emily Candio

    When I was in high school, my cousin bought an antique record player. It was wooden, carved up and initialed like a crusty bathroom stall. Dust and smoke and lingering 60s idealism was seemingly fossilized in its ridges. We would play Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon on repeat, clogging the air with incents and discussing the difference in tone a record player allowed, the “smooth, silky texture.” Of course, we were entirely full of it. Our worlds are ones of Facebook statuses, of American Idol and UGG Boots. This music promoted challenges to the mainstream, communicating a budding desire for destruction of conformity, for revolution. Our generation is more likely to Google “revolution” to research their trendy Che Guevara v-necks than initiate one. My cousin and I were playing this game of make believe, assembling a fantasy with a withered artifact and rosemary incents. We were the children who pretended to be medieval princesses in extravagant stone castles. That’s the funny thing about culture. Here, Dr. Weber demonstrates the symbolic significance of records with his wistful attachment to music stores and the “experience” of collecting and playing records. I’m going to assume that, at fourteen, Dr. Weber did not consider his new album or rust on his Schwinn bicycle “nostalgic.” Just as we do not regard our Blackberries and techno raves as “sentimental.” Furthermore, the medieval princess perhaps believed her stone walls to be cold and hostile over lavish and glamorous. In COM 105, culture is determined to be “usually outside of awareness and conscious control.” It distinguishes cultures by “insiders,” and “outsiders.” This infers that we are inside, members of, even contributing to a system without our knowledge. Can we ever control it, or are we always victims to shifting generational tides? Is it possible to accurately define and analyze an existing culture, or is scrutiny accessible only in retrospect? It makes me wonder if our children will deactivate their neural music chips in favor of ear buds, commenting on the music’s “silky texture,” in admiration of the “charming simplicity” of our generation.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Some very procative and thoughtful reflections, Emily! Thanks for commenting. As I wrote in reply to another commentator, the historical past is experienced as a static entity in one’s life, even in many cases, the historical past that one lived through. We look back at our lived experience and “brand it,” i.e., give it a digestible meaning and perhaps a label to use as a reference point. In that way it is with us; and perhaps that is what William Faulkner meant when he wrote, “The past is not dead; in fact, it not even past.”

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      I love your comment Emily. Very thoughtful, insightful, and refreshing! Thank you.

  • Andrea Blanton

    When I was growing up, my parents did not have any vinyl records or anything resembling a record player. However, as I was reading this article, I was fascinated by how passionate you and Dr. Weber were and still are about vinyl records. Reading about all of the vivid memories shows how dedicated you both were to the music. Being passionate about something reminds me of the reading for Dr. Weber’s COM 341 class for this past week. The Greeks were passionate about persuasion and teaching rhetoric to people who were willing to learn. Keeping the passion alive through people is what helps the evolution of ideas. It’s interesting to see how music and communication has evolved over the years. Music has evolved into tiny mp3 players and the use of records has become obsolete and communication has evolved into a great a tool for everyone to grasp and understand to the best of their capability.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      I have started bringing the concept of passion into my comments to my Introduction to Communication Studies class, the first class that all UNCW communication majors MUST take (even if they took a similar class at another, they still MUST take this intro class). I warn the students that the word passion comes from the Latin word pati, which means “to suffer.” If you are passionate about something, you are therefore willing to SUFFER as part of learning and doing it. This will, I hope, prevent a student from too loosely or blithely saying, “I’m ‘passionate’ about communication” or “I’m ‘passionate’ about public relations as a communication specialty area.” I think that the greatest of the Greek rhetors and rhetoricians WERE “passionate” about persuasion as a human endeavor. They were willing to “suffer” by allocating immense amounts of time into memorizing their speeches, working through the process of planning excellent spoken-language compositions, rehearsing their speeches. In the literal physical sense, they “suffered” as they strained lung and muscle to produce utterances loud or well-pitched enough to be heard by vast numbers of listeners in outdoor settings devoid of sound amplification systems other than acoustical enhancement perhaps afforded by some of those settings.

  • Daniel Hatcher

    The first word that comes to mind as I finished reading this article is “wow”! You have made an excellent point, Dr. Weber, as you have stated the changes that have occurred between your childhood and mine. I wish that I could reminisce as you have back to the times of vinyl records, however unfortunately my earliest memory in regards to music and technology was affiliated with tape players and CDs (as well as Nintendo’s, Nickelodeon, and everything else). The world is forever changing. Today’s technology will be outdated tomorrow, and tomorrow’s technology will be obsolete the day after. This article shows great representation of how current-time culture is so much different from culture in the 60s. I will always be considered an “outsider” in regards to vinyl days as I am unable to relate to any of the things that happened in that time frame. I personally consider it a privilege for Bruce and Dr. Weber to say that they have collected vinyl records and rode their Schwinn bikes to the record stores. The era referred to in this article happens to be one of the more authentic times in recent history; at least in my opinion. Although technology is advancing at an exponential rapid rate, it seems as if some people are starting to go back in time. Day in and day out, I see more people wearing styles that were popular in the 80s, 70’s, and 60s. Could this be a sign that more and more people will revert to older technology and record days accordingly? I guess we will see as time goes on. Great article!

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Thanks, Daniel, for reading and commenting on the article. A number of the posts made in response to this article refer to a kind of sadness that the time when Bruce and I were coming up is not merely years ago on a calendar, but an era that has come and gone, and had many attractive features about it. I am thinking that perhaps humans ever have and ever will yearn to be part of the past. The past is conceptualized as a static entity…understandable in a way that is similar to how branding makes a product “understandable.” In my early years of college, I would have given anything to have lived in the 1890s. I don’t remember what it was about that era that was so appealing, but I remember intentionally wearing facial hair in a style that was common in the 1890s (moustache blending into muttonchops, essentially a beard with the chin shaved) as my best attempt to go back to a time in which something happened that I wished I had experienced directly.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      I think every generation goes through phases of “looking back fondly.” I went through it, musically, when I “discovered” the great crooners of my parent’s generation, specifically Frank Sinatra. It was a revelation to me that my mom and dad loves their music every bit as much as I did mine!

  • Jesse Kale

    I had two things come to mind while reading this article:
    1. I love The Monkees.
    2. That I’m seeing the memories of the records as being part of Definion 6 as learned is Dr. Weber’s class.
    I can relate with Dr. Weber and the loss of social interaction within the ever dwingling amount of record stores and the replacement of feeling the weight of an album in your hand with the weight of a single Ipod holding what would have been a record stores entire catalogue of titles.
    I can relate in that, I’m a comic book fan. I have been for years, and I have gone every Wed’s to a comic shop since I was 14. Now though, I’ve slowly gotten out of the hobby due to cost, even though, I can buy most comics online now for far cheaper.
    But I don’t, of course.
    I relize now I don’t read comics for the story really. I read them for the memories the story creates.
    Holding onto a comic brings up a certain stimuli, just like your cardboard sleeve for the record. The smell of an old comic, mixed with yellowing paper, dogged earred corners and ripped out staples. It reminds me of the times my father took me out of his way to see my favorite writers’ and artists’ at Heros Con in Charlotte. Him standing there in the aisles of the Convention floor as I kneeled in front of 25cent long boxes looking for that random issue I needed of Rom: Spaceknight.
    Just like you, I created memories. Just like your friends helping you move Orange creates, I had friends move my long boxes up two floors, and trust me, 150 comics in a box can get pretty heavy.
    These “things” were/are physical totems of our memories. And with everything moving towards the internet, future generations are going to miss out on memories they cann’t create with Itunes. There isn’t any, employees to discuss music with, or fighting over the last Monkees record with another fan, or boxes upon boxes of stuff for you to drag your friends into helping you move.
    While Itunes promotes easy of discover, and a new social network to find people that “like” the same band as you, there is still something missing. Possibly a human context?

    • David Weber (from the article)

      By definition 6, I presume you mean the sixth def. on a list of nine in the class textbook. The term defined is communication. Def. 6 runs “Communication is a process whereby people assign meanings to stimuli in order to make sense of the world.” I think what I am reading in your post is that the stimuli captured in vinyl recordings and comic books serve, in the case of our life experience, as springboards to sense-making…e.g., if I can manage these albums or these comic books (i.e., find them, choose from among them, transport them, experience them with my senses, etc.), I can manage the world beyond them, and to that extent, the world “makes sense.” Very good stuff, Jesse! Thanks.

  • Scott Burgess

    Reading this post really caused me to reminisce on my own childhood. Though I am a product of the 1980’s, my parents still have a record player that is part of our stereo system back home. As a child, I remember playing The Jungle Book over and over again, because it was on a record. One of my chores cleaning up was to dust the living room where the stereo was, and every time I did this chore I found myself sitting in front of the record player sorting through the collection of records that my parents had acquired over the years. One of my fondest memories of these times was when my mom told me about the story of how she got the record Black Betty by Ram Jam. Apparently my grandmother did not think it was appropriate, so my mom snuck out and bought it at the local record store. It reminds me of the things I have done that my mom did not approve of, but hey she did it to!

    This post about the evolution of technology really made me think about how vinyl records are a form of rhetoric that has fallen out of the limelight. I know from my personal experience, the one thing that persuaded me to listen to certain records was the artwork on the sleeve. I did not always know who the artists or bands were, or what genre they played, but if the sleeve had cool artwork I was more likely to listen to it. The visual appearance is what persuaded me to take the time to carefully take the record out and meticulously place the needle at the proper spot. As we have learned in Dr. Weber’s Rhetorical Theory class, the goal of rhetoric is to persuade. It must have been really cool to go into a record store and sort through the different records, see what caught your eye, take the time to listen to the music, and ultimately leave with something in your hand.

    It is just not the same today. I use iTunes to find my music. I search based off what people post on Facebook, what I heard on the radio, etc… If I am looking for new music, I go to the genre that I like and look at the Top 100 downloads or recently released section. I never look at the album artwork, just the title of the song and the artist. If it the title catches my eye, I preview it. If I like it, then I download it. There is no persuasion occurring, it is only based on my opinion of the song.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Very good insight! The question of how is the marketing of recorded music accomplished as a rhetorical endeavor is a really interesting one. I think you’re right, the album cover’s large size (relative to the size of a CD, or on a music website, a thumbnail image of the front of CD) served as a canvas for use of imagery, color, composition that could persuade someone to buy the album. The Beatles’ The White Album, with nothing but shiny white covering and “The Beatles” embossed on the cover below midpoint and off to one said, was stark, and as such was surely intended to be persuasive. Compare that to the cover of Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band, released a year or two before The White Album. The “Sgt.Pepper” cover was visually complex, colorful and multilayered with images.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      Scott, you are so right as are you in response DW, about the difference in the album art now and then. We wore out our albums just looking at the details all over them, including the sleeves that often would have the label’s other releases and stimulate another purchase. I think you, too, would enjoy the first “Evolution of Technology” article, Scott, on “The Transistor Radio.”

  • Joseph Ondish

    Its interesting that this is the article discussing vinyl and reminiscing about days where collecting them where a major hit among practically everyone. I just sat in my friends office, who isn’t much older than I, who graduated from UNCW with a Communication studies degree, talking to him about his newest vinyl records he has been collecting. I’ve never been that much into music, as I rarely even keep up with most mainstream music, I usually find my favorite musicians and play my favorite record over and over until I find the next album I fall in love with. The difference here is that all my albums are discovered through Facebook or itunes. Much different than the vinyl filled record stores that my dad as well as you two visited.
    In this case, social constructionist theory comes to mind for the way both of you reminisce about vinyl and the memories you’ve created from it. Obviously both you and Dr. Weber both have constructed your own meaning and memories from what vinyls mean to you based on your childhood adventures into the record stores of LA. Because of this construction, I will never be able to fully understand the relationship you two share based on the memories of vinyls, as it isn’t something I had the pleasure of growing up with. As these memories were constructed based on personal experiences and memories of things that are not considered the norm today.
    Like the sophists, you’ve clearly stated the love and fondness that you have and have had for your vinyls. You could have made an argument either way for why you like them or don’t, and if you had stated that you don’t miss them, I wouldn’t have been any wiser either way.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Joseph, you covered some territory here! Thanks for the comment. Yes, the relationship between Bruce and myself is socially constructed, as are all relationships. My affinity back in the day for vinyl was also socially constructed, conditioned as it was by choices I would make in response to what people said to me (or didn’t) with respect to music, records and performers; as well as socially constructed by and through my encounters with media messages. I think that a Sophist would proceed as follows: he (they were mostly males) would propose to his students an endoxa (that is, a statement that would more or less generally be accepted as true by most people)…in this case, something like “Music is something to appreciate as a boon to humans”; then he would guide his students in constructing a case in favor of that endoxa; and then he would guide them in constructing a case IN OPPOSITION to it; and finally, he would coach them in how to deliver the message as a speech, presented so passionately and charismatically that no listener could conclude whether the speaker stood in favor of or stood against the endoxa.

  • Joseph Ondish

    Coming from an interviewer background, there are multiple pieces of this article that stand out as possible question asking points to find out more information that is left out. There were multiple times during the article where I was left asking myself “What about this detail?” A lot of the information brought up in this article sends me straight to the 2nd level of interaction. The information you shared about your history is far beyond phatic communication, and very much so into the personal, but not intimate realm of communication. It was much to my surprise that so many personal and childhood memories were shared among those who read, many that are complete strangers. It shows that you are willing to disclose a tremendous amount of information in order to reminisce about the good times you had in your childhood.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Well put, Joseph, and dare I infer that you were writing with intent to compliment? As I think I wrote to someone else on this page, I don’t know if my self-disclosre was at Level 3, but there was some that may have been. (Maybe we have to establish 2.5 as a level of interaction!) As an interviewer, make sure you keep your ear open for “missing information,” so that you can probe for it immediately. Thanks the comment.

  • Jordan Stone

    After reading this article I realized how much of a difference there is between today’s youth culture and that of the 35-40 years ago. From Prof. Weber and Bruce’s nostalgic reminiscence of the past it is clear that they understand something that I (and many people from my generation) do not. I as an outsider do not understand the appeal of storing some huge disc that requires such temperamental devices to play. I would be irate if I actually had had to ride my bike to the “iPod download” store, but the insiders of that older culture may feel like I’m missing out on some phenomenal experience.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      As I think I wrote to another commentator on this page, I really don’t think you’ve missed out on something. I don’t want to give that impression. My reflections were more a set of observations of how technology has evolved, and how my life has or has not changed as a result. I think you’re correct, Jordan, the downsides of vinyl recordings are numerous. One you don’t mention is: they melt in the heat! I have hoisted a vinyl record from the shelf, pulled it from the sleeve…and watched the disc flop in my hands like pizza dough that has just been flattened out!

  • Christy Philips

    Aw for the love of good music. Music isn’t the same now a days as it use to be. Even though most records were before my time. I am old enough to appreciate good music. I use to get into my mom’s and grandma’s record collection. I had a few favorites myself like the B 52′s, Blondie, Marvin Gaye, and Rolling stones. It must had been awesome to grow up near Hollywood in a world of famous music. Music inspires me. Most vinyl’s today are antique and it is not easy to find a original copy in good shape. From a rhetorical stand point Dr. Weber did a good job taking historicity into account when describing his experience with some of the artist he met and the importance of his record collection.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Thanks for the comment, Christy. Good catch on the historicity piece. You mentioned about how it must have been awesome to grow up near Hollywood. I do believe that Bruce and I were kids in L.A. during the last best years of living there. I have often thought that L.A. reached its peak at the ’84 Olympics (I lived in Tokyo at the time). It hasn’t been the same for me since, with its crowds and now slow traffic, and a certain hectic feel to life there. In some other posts on this page, people have addressed the issue of cultural insiders and outsiders. Here is an illustration of how to tell an insider from an outsider within the culture of L.A. Many celebrities live and roam around in L.A. It is not uncommon to encounter this or that start of film, t.v. or music on the streets of L.A., Hollywood or Beverly Hills. You can always tell who is and is not an insider by how someone reacts when he or she sees a celebrity. An outsider to L.A. culture goes crazy, smiling, giggling, OMG’ing, and so on, and maybe debating whether or not to get an autograph. An insider to L.A. may take covertly note of the celebrity, and feel a thrill of excitement in the moment. But the insider does not fawn over the celebrity or really even nonverball acknowlege him or her. If you do make direct contact, it would be in the briefest and least histrionic of ways…maybe you’d say, “I like your work,” and move on. How does one learn to do that? I don’t know, except that I learned it by observation, and somehow picking up on the idea that it’s not “cool” to get excited under those circumstances.

  • Lincoln Smith

    Even at my young age, I fully agree with Dr. Weber’s notion that there’s a certain “identity” that accompanies the physical possession of such items as records, CD’s, and DVD’s. Yes, I’m a bit traditional and yes, I like to collect. I like to acquire, arrange, re-arrange, and talk about my collections which would probably make me an “insider” to the culture of habitual collectors. And even though I’ve conformed with the new-age methods of acquiring music (MP3,YouTube,etc), I can honestly say that my appreciation for the content has diminished significantly. When I used to have to buy CD’s, I respected and took good care of them. I listened to each song from start to finish. Now that I burn CD’s(to save money), I find that I’m more apt to skip through songs and even lose the CD within a few days. There’s something enigmatically delightful about purchasing a CD, looking at the artistic design of the cover, opening the case, and SMELLING that freshly manufactured disc that today’s digital meida can’t compete with. I’m sure many would disagree. But for me, I will continue to embrace the ways of the past(when financially convenient) to experience the sensation that I and other members of my subculture of collectors know and appreciate so well.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Hello, Lincoln, so you’re a collector? Were you talking just about music and film recordings (CDs, DVDs) or more than that? I’m a collector of many objects, ephemera, memorabilia and stuff…which in private I refer to with a cruder word than “stuff”! I have often thought it would be in my interest to list all the “stuff” I collect, so maybe this is a good an opportunity to do so. Here in no particular order other than what is popping into my head is what I have collected… a “collection” defined as three or more intentionally gathered items related by type: swizzle sticks; beer mats (the thick cardboard rounds placed under a cold beer on the counter of a bar); World War I trench art; matches; ashtrays from around the world; postcards; military insignia (U.S. and foreign); letter openers; fountain pens; hand-held ballistic weapons; coffee mugs; hats; Toby jugs; tattoos; decorative brass coffee pots and teapots; walking sticks; decorative magnets from places I’ve visited. That’s about all that come immediately to mind. Collections that are dormant (i.e., I haven’t, for whatever reason, added to these collections in years): wooden nickels; movie posters. Because I go out of my way to buy the following, they would be technically “collections,” I guess, but I don’t think of them as such, I just accumulate many, many of them: books, CDs, DVDs, liquors (I have a well-stocked bar), snapshots I’ve taken during the past fifty years. Holy cats… that’s a lot of, uh, “stuff.”

      • Lincoln Smith

        That’s an impressive repertoire! Makes me wonder where you put all that “stuff.” My previous and current collections include CDs, DVDs, books, baseball & basketball cards(my favorite smell when freshly opened), bobbleheads, select magazines, movie posters and state quarters. I started most of these collections with the intention of selling them years later, but I think they’ll end up staying with me.

  • Ryan Ortego

    Within the context of this article, much can be drawn from an interviewer’s perspective. While there is no literal interviewer asking questions, there is still the release of information from the writer – in this case, Dr. Weber. The three levels of questions that can be asked within an interview can still be applied to this article due to the fact that information was still offered up by Dr. Weber. Most of the article is stories, or personal accounts, of what happened to the collection of Albums possessed by Dr. Weber. He tells a story, possibly revealing some Level 2 information of an account that occurred after high school. “After high school, whenever my friends and I changed residences, we would haul our vinyl treasures with us, stacking them in orange crates We shredded our fingers with splinters as we loaded and unloaded the heavy boxes.” This telling could have been close to the heart of the teller, therefore revealing some information that would be deeper than ‘surface-level.’

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Good observation, Ryan. Imagine that the words of Weber (me!) that you read were uttered as responses to interview questions. There is a great deal of information positioned at each of the interaction levels. “I owned about 150 45-r.p.m. records” would be interaction at Level 1. “I began accumulating Moody Blues albums in college, when one young woman I wanted to impress said she loved the group” is probably at Level 2. “The Beatles’ White Album represented one of my first excursions away from an obedient and straight-arrow life” would be Level 3-ish.

  • Brittany Mills

    I really enjoyed the vivid detail of this article. It is astonishing how you can correlate a particular time in your life with a particular song or album that came out at the respective time. It is such a great way to organize sequential events throughout your life time. The best way to reminisce is by playing that song that brings you back every time. I know that I can recall a song for almost every important moment of my life.

    Being born in 1989 – my life has consisted of tapes, CD’s and ipod’s so I have never personally experienced the attachment to real authentic vinyl. I respect the effort and enthusiasm of the music lovers in this generation. You actually had to put forth effort and commit to maintain a collection despite the complications. For that reason I also envy this time. The process one went through to maintain a vinyl collection brought you that much closer to the music you loved. One could feel accomplished with the work and time spent into such an extensive collection. My generation missed out on the whole system of going about purchasing music. My generation does not deal with complications such as storage and maintenance that was thoroughly thought of then. Music is so easily accessible today that we don’t think twice about the process but simply click a button – download. No complications. No process. The controversy I am having with this new easy access to music of our generation is it for better or worse?

    • David Weber (from the article)

      I would say it is like just about anything else, it has its joys and sorrows. As I’ve suggested in some other replies to readers’ posts, as much as I have some emotional bonds to various aspects of vinyl, there are many pieces of good news about today’s systems for recording, storing and playing music that one would have to be truly narrow-minded to automatically say that it was unconditionally better “back in the day.”

  • Jessica Crawford

    This article was both descriptive and enjoyable, and it certainly showed a great contrast between the music culture of the past, as well as today’s music culture. It is truly fascinating how deeply appreciated vinyl records were, and I’d say, still are today. My earliest memories consist of listening to cassette tapes in my boombox and starting my vast collection of “Now That’s What I Call Music” CD’s, yet all you ever really see today is an iPod in everyone’s hand.

    In COM 105 we are taught that the term “culture” distinguishes itself with insiders and outsiders. When my generation was in their teenage years, you were considered and insider if you ran out to the music store and purchased the newest pop CD the second it came out, but in reality, we were outsiders to the overall music culture. Reading what great detail Dr. Weber used in describing his early vinyl record collection immediately brought back familiar stories I’d heard my parents tell about their childhood memories. Even today they continue to point out how astonishing it is to be able to access music so easily, whether it be a tap on your iTouch or a point-and-click on iTunes and YouTube.

    It’s fascinating how much music and technology has advanced so greatly throughout the years and to think about how much more it’s going to change in the future. As an outsider to the culture of those timeless albums and records, it’s impossible to relate to these deep emotions and connections, but I have always had an overflowing amount of respect towards the true passion it brings out in others.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      I relate well to the astonishment you ascribe to your parents, Jessica. I remember that asI kid, I might see a movie I loved several times in the theater. Eventually, though, it would leave town. Since most movies never had a re-release, chances were you would only be able to see the movie again if (a) you had some way of renting and playing it in 16- or 35-mm, which called for expensive hardware that no regular person had, or if (b) it one day came to television. Regarding “b,” most movies did not, or if they did, it would be years after initial release. So as a movie lover from about age 5 or 6 (the first movie I ever saw in a theater was “Snow White,” in one of its periodic re-releases…it was a rainy Saturday afternoon and my old man took me to a matinee), and a more or less serious film buff since about age 15, the idea, as of the late ’70s or early ’80s, that now you could rent a videotape of many beloved movies was some kind of pinch-me-so-I’ll-know-I’m-not-dreaming kind of wonderful! That was multiplied when the DVD era began let’s say a decade later. And now, NetFlix with its massive catalogue allows you to see just about any movie, old or recent, that you want to see, although there may be a wait to do so. Similarly, youtube has “reunited” me with songs, or introduced me to ones I’ve known about but never heard, in the most instant-gratification platform I’ve ever known! Once in 1966, I heard a song on the radio called “Matthew & Son.” It was new and the DJ, who could play what he wanted when he wanted, said at the end of the song, “That was very cool, let’s hear it again,” and replayed it. The melody and most of the lyrics, after only hearing them twice, stuck with me for DECADES. I could never find a recording of it; most people I knew had never even heard the song. Then, about two years ago, youtube to the rescue! Here is the song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG7woCQkGUw

      • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

        DW, we should also do an “Evolution of Technology” article on “Going to the movies” as it, too, is a completely different experience. My first movie in the theaters was “Gigi” and the first one I went to at night, which was a big deal, was the original “The Parent Trap” with Hayley Mills.

  • Walker Buchan

    I too can relate to having very personal recollections about the music I have purchased in the past. However, I have not been able to tie the particular album that I purchased at the time to a unique location, due to the mundane experience of Best Buy. With that being said, music is very therapeutic for me. There is something magical about investing your time and spirit into listening to an album and if you’re willing to do so, it will hopefully give back so much more. Looking back one album I invested in with such regularity, so much so, you could compare it to a preachers Bible is Kanye West’s album, Graduation. I can still review the playlist in my head! This albums success was due to the magnitude of its symbol caring capacity among other things. The content and how it’s arranged so cleverly convey messages through symbols in complete harmony with the instrumentals. My appreciation for the album grew with the time I spent listening because of the complexity of the symbols. The beauty of music in general is that it is up to the listener to evaluate the meaning as well as the symbols behind the song and this is why my appreciation for music is so dear, just like DW.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Thanks for the comment, Walker. I like what you’re saying about symbols. Elsewhere on this page, commentators have mentioned the difference between cover art on record albums, and the “shrunken” version of that art on CDs. Talk about symbols: At a certain point in the late ’60s and early ’70s, rock album covers were almost self-consciously, flagrantly abundant with visual symbols. Or so it was said by many rock critics and just plain consumers of rock music. The cover of The Beatles’ Abbey Road, for example, was scrutinized exhaustively to infer from it some hidden meaning behind its visual symbology (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1205310/Pictured-The-Beatles-album-cover-started-decades-long-conspiracy-theory.html).

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      C’mon Walker, I can’t believe certain songs don’t evoke strong emotional responses in you? Like for a former girlfriend?

  • Lucero Rojo

    This article was actually really insightful and interesting to read. I grew up in a era completely different to the one that was described in the passage yet I appreciate music with the same passion. I realized that although the way music is heard changes throughout the decades (that is, from vinyl records to mp3 players and Ipods) the passion and emotion for music remains as intense as ever. From what I read, I could tell that each individual record that Dr. Weber owned had an important emotional significance. For example, the one that his father bought before he was born. Some people like music just as much as any other person, but there are some of us who have a special affinity for music. I believe that these individuals distinguish themselves from others through their habits of mind,heart, and behavior. Thus making the musically inclined its own culture (or possibly subculture). I believe that people who love music have more sensitive or emotional patterned ways of thinking, feeling, and reacting. Overall, I really enjoyed reading about the evolution of technology, because change is the only thing in this world that remains constant.

    • David Weber

      Lucy, thanks for the comment. You used the term “affinity,” and you talked about features of culture, and it reminded me of the term “affinity group,” meaning people who band because of their shared love/appreciation for (or obsession with!) something. Fanboys who get together regularly to hash over the adventures of an anime character…an organization of people who protest against a particular social or political condition (anti-war, pro-choice, pro-life, pro-Second Amendment, pro-gun control, etc.)…a group of people who come together because they have a certain illness or psychological dependency…these are all examples of affinity groups. “People who love music” may be too broad a rallying point around which to build an affinity group; but “people who collect vintage vinyl records,” “people who love Frank Sinatra’s music,” “people who like to cook with fresh rosemary,” “people who hate Ben Roethlichsberger,” any of those orientations could be the basis for an affinity group.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      If you enjoyed this article, Lucero, check out the first “Evolution of Technology” article, which was about “The Transistor Radio.” I do believe that one advantage of how music is distributed these days is that the individual has literally every kind of music available at their fingertips. Sometimes it may be so much choice as to be overwhelming but, other times is just means you can access anything and everything.

  • Lindsay Gallagher

    It is interesting to see how technology has evolved over time, but we still attach the same values and memories decades later. I too can relate to the love of music, and I can replay my childhood years through various cassettes and CD’s. My first music possession, which suprisingly was a cassette not a CD, was Hanson. I waited for my mother to come home all day when I was promised that cassette. My sister got the first Now That’s What I Call Music CD at one of her birthday parties, and I remember being so jealous. I would make my own mixtape before any big event I had, whether it was a birthday party, middle school graduation, etc.

    In COM 105, Professor Weber taught us that culture is that part of the environment made by humans. It includes the habit of mind, heart and behavior that distinguish one group from every other group. As years go on and things such as technology improve, culture in turn evolves. This article speaks of vinyl records that turned into CD’s among other things. This is comparable to the cassettes that evolved into CD’s that evolved into iPods just during my short twenty years of life. As a culture changes, so will everything that comes along with it. Even so, we are able to relate to different ages in society by similar memories and values. The process can get more complicated over time, but it is still the same process none the less.

    It is interesting to see what people that grew up in a different decade than me hold dear to them. I enjoyed reading this article very much for that reason. I was able to relate to the article, and it brought back fond memories from my past. The idea of culture resounds over and over in the article, and it was exciting to use the new information I was taught in COM 105 to process the article.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Thanks, Lindsay. I hope you are convinced that what we learn in COM 105 DOES have applicabilty to the world outside the classroom.

  • Jessica Saunders

    This article took me back to a time that I wish I grew up in because there is a true appreciation of not just music lyrically but the process of buying a record. In my generation, we are used to having ipod’s and itunes. However, I do remember in middle school going out and buying CD’s and getting so excited the night before to buy the new current album. Walking into f.y.i when I was twelve years old was a candy store for me. I loved going down every aisle and looking at the different sections like pop, hip-hop, country, and jazz. I have always had a very eclectic music collection.

    In my COM 105 class, Dr. Weber has discussed how you can be an “insider” or an “outsider” of a group. I am definitely an “outsider” of you and Dr. Weber’s generation because I do not relate to you both nor do I understand and have knowledge of records. It is just another example of how cultures have changed through out the generations.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Jessica, thanks for your comments. You were able to catch the last few years of music stores. There was one here in Wilmington called Millennium Music. I used to love to browse in the racks. Classical music was racked in a special glassed-in and sound-proof room, with listening stations along one wall. Millennium went out of business — it was precisely where Bonefish Grill now is on Market and New Center — in approximately 2005. It broke my heart. Too many times in my life, I have had a favorite music store that I would spend hours browsing in, sometimes buying, sometimes not. Then one day I would notice that the racks were not getting re-plenished and the prices were suddenly dropping. It was because a new platform was emerging, and the new mode (monaural to stereo vinyl, stereo vinyl to CD and audiotape, etc.) was coming in. The last round of such change was CD to…well, to oblivion — what has replaced CD is audiofiles stored, shared, transmitted and played by the use of computers and telecommunications. At Millennium Music, one day I noticed fewer and fewer CDs…and then, not too many months later, out of business. The same thing is happening now with traditional DVDs…notice how cheap so many have become, and how Blu-Ray titles are more plentiful at Best Buy, Target and elsewhere.

  • Schuyler Grimsman

    Although it is rather sad to look back upon an artifact that is used less, or should I say given less value in today’s society, it is nice to think about an items historicity as it shapes our view of how we listen to music now. It is very rare to find record stores these days, especially in smaller towns. We are all about convenience now…Where can I go shopping that will have every item on my list? What website is best to download all genres of music from? How can I fast-forward this?
    It is rare that anyone plays an entire album through to end on an iPod. That was the best part of listening to vinyl. Does this also send a message to the music world, that it is essentially OK to be a one hit wonder? It is less about an albums success or the band’s success… it is all about the single song making it to the top of the download list.
    Just as DW was describing, it takes more than a click of a finger to play a record, so is that why CDs, cassette tapes, and vinyl are less attractive in 2011?

    • David Weber

      In about the mid-1950s, singer Frank Sinatra and arranger Nelson Riddle pioneered the “concept album.” Instead of having simply a set of a dozen or so songs in one record package, the songs were carefully assembled in accordance with a theme, and sequenced for an artistic and emotional effect best produced by listening from the first song straight through to the last. For example, “In The Wee Small Hours” was a collection of wistful, rueful, blues-in-the-night, it’s-three-in-the-morning-and-I-can’t-figure-out-why-she-left-me songs, and Sinatra’s renditions of many of them are still held up as the gold standard. The “concept” concept, so to speak, endured for a while and, as far as I can tell, migrate into rock circles. The Moody Blues, whom I cited in the article, were famous for thematizing their albums. Sometimes, there was nothing for it but to listen to an album straight through; to do otherwise would feel unfulfilling. Many times I would listen to such an album and by the end of it, I would feel as though I had gone on and returned from an existential journey.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      Schuyler, you are so right on! I would actually take it one step further and assert that most “kids” don’t even listen to a whole song, let alone a whole album. It seems the whole notion of channel surfing, which began with remote controls on tv sets has ramped up exponentially with the advent of the iPod and MP3 players!

  • Katherine Kenyon

    After reading this article, I believe that people do have a different appreciation for music than they did during the times that vinyl records were popular. Now, if we lose an iPod, we can go back online and get the same songs again by downloading them and nothing will change. I have a good friend that has a few large boxes of records and can see how she beams when turning her record player on. It is an exciting venture to have the task of using a record player rather than just hitting play on an iPod. While there are people that are still very passionate about music, others have to dig deeper to get that passion, as with everything else. I think that adolescents being disobedient and rebelling is more acceptable and can be shown through other forms than music in todays’ culture, so it is not as mesmorizing to teens. I liked the specificity of this article because it showed which records were more special to Dr. Weber, and seemed more honest than if he were to generalize and say that all of his records held meaningful memories.

    • David Weber (from the article)

      Thanks, Katherine. I think you have hit on something important, which is that to whatever extent the music one listened to “back in the day” was a way of rebelling, it was one of the few ways to do so. Now there are so many others.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      VERY interesting point, Katherine, about the rebellious impact of music then and now. I hadn’t thought of that at all.

  • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

    For all of you who have made such thoughtful and terrific comments on our article on vinyl, may I suggest you check out the first “Evolution of Technology” article – which is on “The Transistor Radio” — http://boomertechtalk.com/the-evolution-of-technology-the-transistor-radio/

  • Bill D.

    My first album was the debut album by Blind Faith (Clapton, Winwood, Grech, Baker), the domestic release with the photo of the four on the cover. At 11 years old, I opted against buying the British version, which had a picture of a young, topless girl holding a model jet plane. I didn’t think my parents would allow me to keep that one. Buying that album set me on a life of music buying that continues today, and with the exception of several boxes of vinyl LPs that were stolen from me in the 1990s, I still have them all, including Blind Faith.

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      Boy Bill, I bet you had that British version now, but I completely understand the decision you made at the time!

  • Pisces101

    I love the great shots of one the most popular yet underrated bands in Rock & Roll history! The Monkees music has brought me out of cloudy days and made them sunny. The gre with me and got psychedelic with the rest of the world in their own way. Although 1969 brought on Monkees LP’s with mostly solo produced tracks, they are some of the best 60′s Lp’s in my own sometimes arrogant opinion

    • http://www.brucesallan.com Bruce Sallan

      We totally agree Pisces! Do you know their “Shades of Grey?” – another of their under-rated songs!

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    I’ve always had a thing about vinyl, ever since I could work my white plastic Fisher Price close and play by myself. 
    I worked at Tower when it first opened in Austin and we still had vinyl, although not for very long. Later, I worked at Waterloo and especially loved the vinyl annex. My first after-college job was at Cellophane Square in Seattle but vinyl sales were already declining.